Jon ([info]oswaldtherabbit) wrote,
@ 2006-07-07 11:15:00
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I liked this quote
We have names for people who have many beliefs for which there is no rational justification. When their beliefs are extremely common, we call them 'religious'; otherwise, they are likely to be called 'mad,' 'psychotic' or 'delusional.' '' To cite but one example: Jesus Christ -- who, as it turns out, was born of a virgin, cheated death and rose bodily into the heavens -- can now be eaten in the form of a cracker. A few Latin words spoken over your favorite Burgundy, and you can drink his blood as well. Is there any doubt that a lone subscriber to these beliefs would be considered mad?
--Bill Harris

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This is also from that same book (which I just ordered with my new paycheck) The End Of Faith. This is a bit longer.

"Out of deference to some rather poorly specified tenets of Christian doctrine (after all, nothing in the Bible suggests that killing human embryos, or even human fetuses, is the equivalent of killing a human being), the U.S. House of Representatives voted effectively to ban embryonic stem-cell research on February 27, 2003.

No rational approach to ethics would have led us to such an impasse. Our present policy on human stem cells has been shaped by beliefs that are divorced from every reasonable intuition we might form about the possible experience of living systems. In neurological terms, we surely visit more suffering upon this earth by killing a fly than by killing a human blastocyst, to say nothing of a human zygote (flies, after all, have 100,000 cells in their brains alone). Of course, the point at which we fully acquire our humanity, and our capacity to suffer, remains an open question. But anyone who would dogmatically insist that these traits must arise coincident with the moment of conception has nothing to contribute, apart from his ignorance, to this debate. Those opposed to therapeutic stem-cell research on religious grounds constitute the biological and ethical equivalent of a flat-earth society. Our discourse on the subject should reflect this. In this area of public policy alone, the accommodations that we have made to faith will do nothing but enshrine a perfect immensity of human suffering for decades to come.

But the tendrils of unreason creep further. President Bush recently decided to cut off funding to any overseas family-planning group that provides information on abortion. According to the New York Times, this “has effectively stopped condom provision to 16 countries and reduced it in 13 others, including some with the world’s highest rates of AIDS infection.” Under the influence of Christian notions of the sinfulness of sex outside of marriage, the U.S. government has required that one-third of its AIDS prevention funds allocated to Africa be squandered on teaching abstinence rather than condom use. It is no exaggeration to say that millions could die as a direct result of this single efflorescence of religious dogmatism. As Nicholas Kristof points out, “sex kills, and so does this kind of blushing prudishness.”

And yet, even those who see the problem in all its horror find it impossible to criticize faith itself. Take Kristof as an example: in the very act of exposing the medievalism that prevails in the U.S. government, and its likely consequences abroad, he goes on to chastise anyone who would demand that the faithful be held fully accountable for their beliefs:

I tend to disagree with evangelicals on almost everything, and I see no problem with aggressively pointing out the dismal consequences of this increasing religious influence. For example, evangelicals’ discomfort with condoms and sex education has led the administration to policies that are likely to lead to more people dying of AIDS at home and abroad, not to mention more pregnancies and abortions.

But liberal critiques sometimes seem not just filled with outrage at evangelical-backed policies, which is fair, but also to have a sneering tone about conservative Christianity itself. Such mockery of religious faith is inexcusable. And liberals sometimes show more intellectual curiosity about the religion of Afghanistan than that of Alabama, and more interest in reading the Upanishads than in reading the Book of Revelation.


This is reason in ruins. Kristof condemns the "dismal consequences" of faith while honoring their cause. It is true that the rules of civil discourse currently demand that Reason wear a veil whenever she ventures out in public. But the rules of civil discourse must change.

Faith drives a wedge between ethics and suffering. Where certain actions cause no suffering at all, religious dogmatists still maintain that they are evil and worthy of punishment (sodomy, marijuana use, homosexuality, the killing of blastocysts, etc.). And yet, where suffering and death are found in abundance their causes are often deemed to be good (withholding funds for family planning in the third world, prosecuting nonviolent drug offenders, preventing stem-cell research, etc.). This inversion of priorities not only victimizes innocent people and squanders scarce resources; it completely falsifies our ethics. It is time we found a more reasonable approach to answering questions of right and wrong."



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[info]disclaimerwill
2006-07-07 05:45 pm UTC (link)
There's a big difference between having faith and imposing your personal faith on others. Politically, I agree with everything here (including that Kristof, whoever that is, sounds like a total blowhard), but to blame faith itself is misguided. I know you and I are probably never going to see eye-to-eye on this, and I get where you're coming from, but as far as this article goes, I don't think there's any contradiction in having some sort of spiritual faith in something and possessing critical thinking skills. (As long as you admit that faith is faith; that is, something that's not based in demonstrable fact.)

As this excerpt points out, there is nothing in the Bible that equates abortion with murder (nor is there anything that explicitly condemns premarital sex, to name just one thing); centuries of mistranslations aside, these issues are just remoras that have glommed onto the faith, not tenets of the faith itself. Thus, these political crusades that are undertaken in the name of Christianity have little if anything to do with actual faith and everything to do with simple, cynical demagoguery. So why blame Christianity?

To blame spirituality for the actions of the purported adherents of various religions (who, often as not, seem not to be terribly familiar with the holy scriptures of their chosen faiths, and rather rely on other people to interpret what those writings say) is too easy, to me. It's like blaming everyone who watches American Idol for the fact that there's nothing good on the radio. Ignorance is the problem. Plenty of ignorant people consider themselves religious, but there are also plenty of people who fall into one camp but not the other.

I agree that no one has any business citing religious or moral reasons when drafting legislation or using government funds- that's bullshit- nor should one person's personal beliefs ever intrude on another person's to the point where the latter feels uncomfortable, but to blame religion for the actions of, say, the Bush administration is to give credence to Bush's facade of spirituality, when in fact, he's just a greedy douchebag whose advisors know how to prey on those who don't like to think for themselves. Religion's the avenue to get there in many cases, sure, but I really don't think that's the source of the problem.

Interesting quotations, though. I may want to read that book.

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